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NameGina
Date2008-09-05
MessageAndy
I can agree that sometimes parents can be responsible for the things their children do, but you can't say that about ALL parents and children. There are children who may have any number of n-e-u-r-o-l-o-g-i-c-a-l
d-i-s-o-r-d-e-r-s, which cause behaviors to be
e-r-r-a-t-i-c, sometimes uncontrollable or even cause p-o-o-r j-u-d-g-m-e-n-t.
Intelligence, among many other
biological factors, plays a h-u-g-e role in how kids, teenagers and even a-d-u-l-t-s
REASON; these things have nothing to do with the parent. Also, you don’t have to
believe in a h-i-g-h-e-r b-e-i-n-g to teach your children LOVE, RESPECT, DIGINITY and VALUES. I do not feel s-h-a-m-e to be the
m-i-n-o-r-i-t-y on this board and I don’t feel that I’m somehow neglecting my children because I, myself don’t believe the way you do. I teach my children to make responsible decisions, but they will walk their OWN path in life, making their OWN decisions and s-u-f-f-e-r-i-n-g their OWN consequences. It took me years to stop blaming my parents for MY short c-o-m-i-n-g-s. But once I realized my actions are my own, life got a lot easier. That is why I admire Gov. Palin. She is unconditionally supporting her daughter, who made a poor choice or what appears to be a p-o-o-r choice. Even poor choices can reap wonderful benefits. A child is an amazing gift.


NameGina
Date2008-09-05
MessageStill trying to figure out WHAT inappropriate words I have....be back soon


NameTimberly
Date2008-09-05
MessageGood thoughts, don't necissarily agree with all of them but well spoken. I do not think the daughter being pregnant can be construed as a lack of parenting. She was 17 and made a choice. I do not blame my pregnancy at a young age on a lack of parenting, it was more a lack of me not doing what it right. As the Bible says, "Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work [be] pure, and whether [it be] right" (Prov. 20:11). It is easy for kids to blame their parents for their own decisions but if a teenager knows the scripture and choose to ignore it then that is the teenager's fault not the lack of parenting. God thankfully made the scripture easy enough for a little child to understand, a teenager should have no problem deciding to do what is right no matter what kind of parenting they have. I personally chose to turn my back when I was a teenager, this was not a decision forced on me by lack of parenting.


NamePappy
Date2008-09-05
MessageI really liked Marci's comment about women stepping into the void of leadership because of a lack of good men.

If the election was today I would vote McCain/Palin. The next two months are going to be a lot more interesting than I ever dreamed possible.


NamePappy
Date2008-09-05
MessageI had to change my name back and forth between Pappy and Thor for it to take my posts. The last change I made to the text of my comments was changing "race" to "political contest." It finally took it. Talk about political correctness gone wild ....


NamePappy
Date2008-09-05
MessageAs far as women in politics, I agree. She ought to stay home. But again, if we expect perfection from our politicians, none of them are qualified. Most of you decided on your support, or lack there of, regarding the men in this political contest without knowing anything about their family. She shows up and is wrong already just for showing up. Why? I expect integrity from my leadership, not perfection, and certainly not complete agreement on all issues. She seems to have integrity and a similar world view to mine. I like her.


NameThor
Date2008-09-05
MessageI fear I may have been misunderstood. There is no question we will be accountable on the last day for how we raised our children. That is a different thing altogether than saying someone is not qualified to be elected to leadership because their teenagers have made mistakes. All I am saying is that it seems like this lady is being held to a higher standard here than men are. Seems to me, with regard to the quality of the family, it should be the other way around. If there is something wrong in the family it is much more likely to be the husband's fault than the wife.


NamePappy
Date2008-09-05
MessageI am trying to post and it says I have inappropriate words. I have read it several times and can not find it. I took out God, Lord, and Palin. And still it will not take it. Please be patient with me as I put it up a little at a time.


Namemarci
Date2008-09-05
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Messagei started reading through the comments, and will post a little more on my thoughts later - over the weekend probably, i'm so busy...

i do like your new wallpaper though, your a talented designer Petra. smilie


Namemarci
Date2008-09-05
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Messagei suppose if there were more good men out there us women wouldn't have to STEP up as it were. I am in favor of Palin, and I think sometimes a woman would do a better job of president, and i'm all for it. I work in a man's world, and most of the time get the same respect... i do run across those men that think i should be home, barefoot and pregnant (no pun intended there, i admire a husband that will take care of their wife and allow them to stay with the kids, i just don't think it should be mandated) I have raised my boys as a single parent, and i think they have turned out really well, and are behind what I am doing 100%, while i'm not at home 24/7 neither are they, and they know they can call me at anytime and I'll be there, palin probably has the same work/parenting method. so I do not agree with you 100%, I don't disagree that some women do want that for their children, and do have a man they respect enough to want to "serve" them. not too many women have that luxury as far as i can tell. and to tell the truth, i would have liked to have had my father around more as a child, so... but, i'm sure you knew i'd disagree with your post to some degree? smilie smilie


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