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| Date | 2008-09-06 |
| Message | Matt - I still say you haven't thoroughly read my posts. You are still saying I have said things that I simply have not said. I NEVER said a woman had to stay home 24/7. Why argue a point that wasn't even brought up? Pappy - going on a trip is hardly the same as working full time while a nanny raises your kid. And Hannah and Samuel? I'd put that in the category of extreme cases. She offered Samuel as an offering to God in return for Him giving her a son (AFTER he was weaned, I might add). God then blessed her with more children for her to KEEP. I think the discussion has gone far beyond Palin and into the role of mothers in general. I've said everything I think about Palin. Matt - "because I disagree with you SO much on this topic, you can't even make it up..." - the thing is - most of the things you keep disagreeing with are things I never said. I never said a father couldn't tend to his children. Obviously - it's a team effort. But, and I say again, when children are small - they need their mothers. Period. It's a proven fact. I'm still trying to make up for working when Darby was a baby/toddler. Matt - we disagree on so many things, though - it's no wonder we disagree on this. I've still yet to see you use any Scripture to back up your claims - just an example of JFK, one of the most corrupt Presidents we've had. |
| Date | 2008-09-06 |
| Message | Matt, I agree. Not all women are meant to raise children (not saying Palin is one). I believe that some women get pregnant on accident. They have the child because that is what they are supposed to do. Or even some women (which I can think of a couple) have kids not because they want to raise children, but because that is what they think they should do. But they don't have any maternal instincts. I'm just saying that some men can be better mothers than some women. This maybe not what God intended, but it's reality. |
| Date | 2008-09-06 |
| Message | I went to ultraguest dot com and submitted several complaints about the inappropriate words feature. I complained about it not having a list. I complained about it not telling you which word it had found. I complained about adult and race being inappropriate words. You have to sign up for an account to make a complaint. I suggest all readers concerned with this issue go and complain. |
| Date | 2008-09-06 |
| Message | Luke 2:44 "... supposing him to have been in the company ..." Mary & Joseph left town without their kid because it was normal for them to expect the extended family was taking care of him. I Samuel 1:22-28 Hannah gave up Samuel to be raised by the priests right after he was weaned. He became a great man of God. Who is raising Sarah Palin's children is a matter for Todd and Sarah Palin's conscience. Not ours. |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | I'll also point out JFK, how many pics do we see of John Jr. playing under his desk while he is in the Oval Office on the phone? Do you think John Jr. cared that his Dad was on the phone tending to his duties? No. Same with Sarah, for all we know, her kids are with her as well, we don't know. Bottom line is, a woman DOES NOT have to stay at home 24/7 to tend to babies... No where in the Bible can you make that case, unless you want to distort or twist Scripture for your own liking... I'll debate anyone, anywhere, anytime on this subject, and unless the person I am debating is drinking the kool-aid, they will lose, sorry...  |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | We get back to the whole point, who says Sarah Palin is NOT tending to and caring for her children??? Some women sit on the couch and watch movies, some do other things... Some women are strong enough to raise, care for and love a family, WHILE doing things like running for office... Depends on the woman... So yeah, how do you know someone else is "raising her children" other than her?? So once again, you "assume" someone else is raising her babies, and how? Raising children does not require that you spend 24/7 with them, and for all we know, she does spend plenty of time with them each day, and when she is not there, her husband may be there, we don't know. Her husband though, even though he does work, may be with them every minute she is not... I'm not sure what the issue is with a Father tending to his children?? Yeah, we could go back and forth on this forever I suppose, and we will NEVER agree... I suppose the thing that gets me the most is how people try to "use" the Bible to justify their "opinions" or "interpretations" of it...  So, if you want to keep arguing or debating the topic we can, or we can agree to disagree, because I disagree with you SO much on this topic, you can't even make it up... |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | When I say "as God clearly intended" then I do mean it is clear to me when I read the Bible. I will concede that not everything is going to be "clearly" the same to everyone. I honestly DO believe "God clearly intended" for a woman to raise her own children - or I wouldn't say it at all. I'd say "in my opinion". Just the pure fact that he gave JUST the woman (not the husband or the siblings) breast milk for feeding infants is proof she should be with them while they are babies. But that could be a whole other discussion in and of itself. Please provide Scripture for me that show a woman should let someone else raise her small children. Or maybe that's coming in your post tomorrow. And again - I know there are strong women. I am not denying there are women capable of doing great things. And I never said they shouldn't. But I don't know of any in the Bible that let someone else raise their baby while they went and did their strong act of whatever. I am sorry my guestbook is so awful! |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | I already referenced where I got that the husband rules over the wife. It's in Genesis 3:16. See the first post I put up this morning. We aren't talking about husbands here, we are talking about wives. Or I would have included those references. Though I did make a comment that the husband also has a role to play. They have FAR more responsibilities than the wife. Obviously. Who said Christ wasn't the head of the Church? I didn't. How do I know she isn't tending to her children? Because she is already in a very demanding job as governor. And VP is even more demanding. I doubt she's taking her kids to work with her every day - I know they are on the tour bus with her at the moment - but that's all for the campaign show. If you can show me where she is caring for her children AND doing her highly demanding job - then I take back everything I said. Submit, obey, in subjection to, love. Those are the words listed in the NT regarding how wives are to be towards their husbands. You are correct. I said serve. My bad. A wife should submit to her husband, obey him, be in subjection to him, and love him. Oh, and guide and keep the house. All referenced in my post. Oh, and the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31 feeds, clothes, and provides for her household (including her husband). So, I stand by 'serve', though it is my word - not a quote from the Bible.  ...contd... |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | I know - I'm not sure what's up with the inappropriate words thing. Speaking of ludicrous. lol! |
| Date | 2008-09-05 |
| Message | Okay, I'm DONE with this blog, I can't post anything... |
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