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NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-25
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MessageTo Kenneth Covey (Grand Finale):

I figured you would say something like that. You guys always bail out when you're faced with the truth. I want all of our readers to go to Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, and 19:5 and tell me if any of these passages show a preacher in the water baptizing someone in a formula. Everyone of these instances show a preacher telling a person what to "DO". It has nothing to do with what the preacher is supposed to "SAY". Matthew 28:19 is Jesus telling the baptizers what to say. All the Oneness references to baptism in Jesus' name only are merely preachers telling people to be baptized in the authority and power of Jesus Christ. Colossians 3:17 takes it a little further in telling us to do all things in the power and authority of Christ! God bless all you Trinitarians! Keep the faith! And never doubt that God is triune!

I have one last verse for Kenneth Covey:

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-24
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MessageTo Kenneth Covey (Part 5):

Is Colossians 3:17 a formula? If not, tell our readers why. It contains the same exact wording as Acts 8:16 and 19:5, two verses you say are a baptismal formula.

Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Please, write again so we can expose all of your fallacies.

Buddy, it's a house of cards ... plain and simple!

God bless!


NameKENNETH COVEY
Date2008-06-24
MessageHOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO GIVE YOU SCRIPTURES?
ACTS 2:38, ACTS 8:16, ACTS 10:48, ACTS 19:1-5, ACTS 22. START EATING YOUR COMPUTER. I GUESS YOU KNOW MORE THAN THE GROUP OF GODLY MEN THAT TRANSLATED THE BIBLE.THE APOSTLE JOHN SAID IF YOU DONT TEACH WHAT THEY TAUGHT IN ACTS YOU ARE IN ERROR.JOHN 4:6. BY THE WAY LOOK IT UP FOR YOUR SELF STRONGS GREEK. IF YOU HAVE A HONEST HEART THIS IS ENOUGH. BY THE WAY FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD. BY FAITH I REPENTED BY FAITH I GOT BAPTIZED IN HIS NAME AND BY FAITH I RECIEVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLYGHOST. IM THROUGH. I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS. TITUS 3 :11. A MAN THAT IS AN HERETIC AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND ADMONITION REJECT KNOWING THAT HE THAT IS SUCH IS SUBVERTED AND SINNETH BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF.


NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-24
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MessageTo Kenneth Covey (Part 4):

The word "name" only means - authority or character! When there is any mention of baptism "in the name of Jesus", it only means - in the authority of Jesus! It has nothing to do with a "formula". Is Colossians

You said there is no salvation in the "Son"? You ought to try reading the King James Bible ... it would help you with your dilemma! Let me show you what I'm talking about:

1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in HIS SON.
12 He that hath the SON hath life; and he that hath not the SON OF GOD hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the SON OF GOD; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the SON OF GOD.

This is just one of many Scriptures exposing your hideous fallacy. The truth is: the Oneness system of Theology is nothing more than a house of cards built by the sleight of hand! One breath of sound doctrine blows it away!

You see ... the power isn't in the letters J-E-S-U-S. There are probably a hundred thousand people in Florida named "Jesus", but there's no power in their name (although its the same exact name). The power is in the person and I'm afraid the Oneness people have missed the person trying to exalt five letters.


NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-24
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MessageTo Kenneth Covey (Part 3):

According to the Oxford University Press Dictionary, the word “name” means - a word or words by which someone or something is known, addressed, or referred to. According to Webster’s Dictionary “name” means - a word or phrase by which a person or thing is designated. The American Heritage Dictionary defines “name” as - a word or words by which any entity is designated. Did you notice that a name can be a phrase, or even WORDS by which something is designated? There are many fathers, but only one "THE Father"! There are many sons, but only one "THE Son"! There are many spirits, but only one "THE Holy Spirit"! By every definition of the word, "Father" is a name of God the Father! "Son" is a name of God the Son! "Holy Ghost" is a name of God the Holy Ghost!

I loved it when you brought that crazy check analogy up too! I'd like to see you open up a checking account as "Kenneth Covey", but only after you tell them that you are omnipresent, omnipotent, eternal, the creator of all things, and the great God of heaven! They'd throw you out on your head! My point is, you have got to quit using earthly analogies to describe God! To call me a father is to address me by a title, but to call God the Father the "Father" is much more than a title. Ever read Isaiah 9:6? LOL!

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: ... and his name shall be called ... The everlasting Father.

I guess "Father" is a name, huh?


NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-24
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MessageTo Kenneth Covey (Part 2)

You want to discuss Scripture? Well ... I'd like to submit my previous challenge: I'll eat my computer if you can give me one piece of documentation (Biblical or historical) showing a preacher with someone in a body of water pronouncing your Jesus Only baptismal formula. Please, give me the Scripture!

And I loved your definition for "name". Are you trying to write your own dictionary? I guess the definition of the word "Theology" is just Theology? No, Kenneth, words mean something. You say "onoma" just means -name? I'm sure you wish that were the case - that way you could make up doctrine as you go, but I'm afraid things don't work that way. A.T Robertson (the greatest Greek scholar America has ever produced) says the word "onoma" means - authority and character. According to Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, "name" means - to bind anyone to recognize and publicly acknowledge the dignity, or authority of one, to do a thing in one's command or authority, acting on one's behalf. These are just a couple of hundreds of scholars that agree. In fact there is noone outside of the oneness movement that would try something as ridiculous as you just did. Let's look at what "name" means in English:


NameDavid Lamb
Date2008-06-24
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MessageThe Kenneth Covey (Part 1):

You just gave our readers a beautiful example of the Oneness people's hypicrisy. You see ... it was you that brought up church history by mentioning the early church. Tell me ... why is that when someone turns things around on you and shows you historical documentation proving that the church was baptizing according to Matthew 28:19, you "all of the sudden" don't need church history anymore? Furthermore, why do you call the Catholic church the great whore (to which I agree) and speak of how deceptive they are, but then expect everyone to believe their encyclopedias? I find that strange! I think the best thing for you to do is quit quoting from the "great whore"!

You say you don't need anything but the Bible, but all you can give is Scripturally is Romans 6:3. Not one logical person is going to read that verse and see a baptismal formula in it. Here it is:

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Paul simply said we are baptized "into Jesus Christ". Who in Christendom doesn't believe that? This has nothing to do with a baptismal formula. The only difference is, we believe it is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. You believe it is by works of men.


NameKENNETH COVEY
Date2008-06-24
MessageONE MORE THING. THE word name comes from the greek word onoma which means NAME. A persons athority and character is wrapped up in their name. Thats why the Bible says its good to have a good name.DO YOU SIGN YOUR PAYCHECK FATHER OR SON WHEN YOU GO TO CASH IT? THE BANK PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT YOU! YOU KNOW WHY, THERE IS NO ATHORITY OR POWER IN A TITLE. BUT WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR PERSNAL NAME THERE THEY WILL CASH YOUR CHECK! YOU TRY CASTING OUT A DEVIL IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER OR SON AND YOU WILL END UP LIKE THE SONS OF SCEVA! WHEN YOU SAY FATHER SON WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVIL THE FATHER OF LIES. WAKE UP! OPEN YOUR EYES! PRAY AND SEEK GOD! MATTHEW 28 19 IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE THE GREAT COMMISION IS LOCATED. READ LUKE 24 :47. REPENTANCE AND REMISSION OF SINS WILL BE PREACHED IN MY NAME BEGINNING AT JERUSALEM. WHAT NAME DID THEY PREACH IN AT JERUSALEM. REPENT and be baptized in the NAME of JESUS FOR REMISSION OF SINS. MARK 16:17 THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW THEM THAT BELEVE IN MY NAME! ACTS 10 43 TO HIM GIVE ALL THE PROPHETS WITNESS THAT THROUGH HIS NAME WHOSOEVER BELEVES IN SHALL RECIEVE REMISSION OF SINS! WHAT NAME THE NAME OF JESUS! WHERE DO YOU RECIEVE REMISSION OF SINS AT BAPTISM ACTS 2: 38. HOW CAN YOU BE SO BLIND? COLOSSIANS 3:17 WHATSOEVER YOU DO IN WORD OR DEED DO ALL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS! WORD IS WHAT WE SAY. DEED MEANS ACTION! COME ON NOW IS BAPTISM AN ACTION? OF COURSE!BY THE WAY ALL COMES FROM THE GREEK WORD PANTA WHICH MEANS ALL, ANY, THE WHOLE, EVERY ETC.


NameKenneth Covey
Date2008-06-24
MessageTo Pastor Lamb. You are denying history when you say the catholic church did not change the baptism. Romans 6 vrs. 3 tells us the church at Rome first baptized in the name of Jesus. Then the baptism was changed and the doctrine of the trinity was introduced.come on Open your eyes who do you think the Great whore is. Its the catholic church headquartered at Rome. Rome is the city of 7 hills. She is arrayed in scarlet and purple, bishops wear purple while the cardinals wear red. In her was found the blood of the saints. 68 million christians have been killed by the roman church. She has ruled over nations. Study your history of the Holy Roman Empire. There is NO DOUBT THAT MYSTERY BABYLON IS ROME! IM NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERY SCRIPTURE.Read rev. 17-18.Why
do you think she is called a widow BECAUSE REJECTED THE NAME OF HER HUSBAND. WHO DO YOU THINK HER DAUGHTERS ARE? During the reformation you had the protestant movement but they kept mothers baptism. They also rejected the NAME! CHRIST IS NOT THE LAST NAME OF JESUS. CHRIST IS WHAT HE IS! CHRIST MEANS HE IS THE MESSIAH BUT HIS NAME IS JESUS. LORD IS WHO HE IS.HE IS LORD OF ALL! I WILL GIVE YOU A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND EAT 20 BIBLES IF YOU SHOW ME ONE TIME IN SCRIPTURE WHERE ANYBODY WAS BAPTIZED ANY OTHER WAY THEN IN THE NAME OF JESUS. I DONT NEED THE DIDACHE I GOT SCRIPTURE! FUTHERMORE THERE IS NO SALVATION IN FATHER OR SON OR HOLYGHOST. TO SAY THERE IS TO BLATANLY DISREGUARD ACTS 4:12. AND THE WORD OF GOD IS RIGHT PS. 33:4.


Nametom taylor
Date2008-06-22
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Messagehi how are you? I am writing to say that I know bro. jeff Raisor he and his wife they are fine people he worked with me some in Indiana. I live in new whiteland Indiana and come to Florida in the winter for arout four months wish you and your church Gods blessings

tom taylor
please respond if you can
but tell bro. Jeff and sis
Tracy hi for us


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