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Nameanthony jennings
Date22-03-2010
MessageThe real trouble with David Waters' suggestion is that it is only the fine buildings of the Church that give it its profile. Keeping and cherishing them keeps it at the heart of the community. Selling them off just hastens its decline. That is just common sense, and it is what our case studies show.


NameLittle Black Sambo
Date10-11-2009
MessageTo David Waters.
The trouble with your suggestion - save the money spent on church buildings and spend it on evangelism - is that if you close the churches you don't release that money for your chosen purpose: you release it for whatever purposes the people who now provide it will choose, and those people number hundreds of thousands. Much as you might like (and much as the central management would also like) a command economy in the C of E, that is not what we have. We are just lucky that people are as willing to maintain the churches as they are. But you have a point: "This ought ye to have done, and not to have left the other undone".


NameDavid Waters
Date06-05-2009
Locationclick picture for more information
MessageDear Sirs

I stumbled across your website whilst investigating the subject of Parish Share.

In my view, astonishing sums are being wasted by the CofE on the maintainance of 16,000 churches across England. 50% of these have less than 30 people attending, and should, in many cases, be shut. The money saved (at least £16 million per year)could be spent on what the church should be doing - evangelising England.

The idea that the CofE should spend money keeping rectories open is, quite frankly, absurd.

Yours Faithfully

David Waters



Private Message added 08-02-2009



Private Message added 07-02-2009


NameFr Mark Nicholls
Date21-11-2008
Locationclick picture for more information
MessageRequest advice re proposed loss of Rectory and rebuilding new by Diocese of Southwark
in Rotherhithe London SE16
Any grounds for compensation to the parish if the rectory is sold?

Fr Mark Nicholls
Priest in Charge
St.Mary Rotherhithe
0207 394 3394
07909 546 659



Private Message added 05-03-2008


NameLittle Black Sambo
Date15-02-2008
MessageMy nasty suspicion is that the transfer of benefice property was a red herring. If it had gone through, a big bonus for the control-freaks, but their main business was to change completely the nature of the priestly life. Did the other innovations of the "terms of service" go through? Will cuddly "common tenure" be established? If so, welcome obligatory "appraisal", going on courses, snooping into how you spend your time and what holidays you take, etc etc. It is all presented as improving the security of unbeneficed clergy; the way to do that was to benefice them (or the equivalent) not to unbenefice the rest. Which way to the staff canteen?
Anyway, well done S.O.P. for helping to pluck something from the wreckage. Who would ever have given a house to the Church again if that had gone through?